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Beserker chit chat
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Re: Beserker chit chat
i want your thoughts on this, since the endairon set is Pignore 45% increase, i wanna try useing that dura with endairon, i still cant figure out the pierce vs ignore, but wat wouuld happen if i go full pignore in PVP *ponder ponder
- bhash90
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Re: Beserker chit chat
Pignore as dura form gear is useless, but from endairon its in percentage, and thats why its of a use..
Feral dura is da best ;p
Feral dura is da best ;p
- r0yalgaia
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Re: Beserker chit chat
Thats a nice build Royal, i went 3-0-2 too and i love earth shatter!! 300k + crit every 5 sec!!
i tried endairon set and it was ok. After i tried feral ring + Belt + earrings and its was almost same damage. I have +52 vit more and 2500hp more from ring, decent.
I have one question, im trying to make a more dd build for soloing. All feral gears (4 tear vit/ 6 tear crit) and i was wondering if i should use 2 +45 tear Strength stones or 2 +4.6 crit power (epic r7 ones)?? Idk if 90 str will be better than 9 crit power.. i think yes but im not sure. Those teardrops cost a lot, i dont want to miss my shot.
Thx guys!!
- 2_die_4
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Re: Beserker chit chat
i was thinking about strength too but i just went 6 vit 6 crit power/rate
when tanking i use anessa / steelpresence , when DD i use endairon and remove steel presence
i balance between them if i need to ^__^
i don't think Strength is very important.
And i hope you are able to manage your mp with earth shatter ?
when tanking i use anessa / steelpresence , when DD i use endairon and remove steel presence
i balance between them if i need to ^__^
i don't think Strength is very important.
And i hope you are able to manage your mp with earth shatter ?
- r0yalgaia
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Re: Beserker chit chat
I have done the same. Vit & crit pow/crit rate stones with feral equips.
I'm 3/0/2 atm and Earth Shatter is amazing but i can't spam it if i want to keep my mp up.
Using enchanted blue pots, mp food, scrolls and Energy Charge but can't keep it up when spamming earth shatter.
I do still need skill cards tho.
I might go 2/0/3 coz Spiracle Rush helps keeping mp up and recharges all spiracles but then no more Earth Shatter which owns in both pve and pvp.
Hard choice...
I'm 3/0/2 atm and Earth Shatter is amazing but i can't spam it if i want to keep my mp up.
Using enchanted blue pots, mp food, scrolls and Energy Charge but can't keep it up when spamming earth shatter.
I do still need skill cards tho.
I might go 2/0/3 coz Spiracle Rush helps keeping mp up and recharges all spiracles but then no more Earth Shatter which owns in both pve and pvp.
Hard choice...
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- brutalg
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Re: Beserker chit chat
2_die_4 wrote:I have one question, im trying to make a more dd build for soloing. All feral gears (4 tear vit/ 6 tear crit) and i was wondering if i should use 2 +45 tear Strength stones or 2 +4.6 crit power (epic r7 ones)?? Idk if 90 str will be better than 9 crit power.. i think yes but im not sure. Those teardrops cost a lot, i dont want to miss my shot.
Thx guys!!
Just take the p.atk bonus from the stones and divide it from your current p.atk. Then take the 9.2 and multiply it by your normal crit rate. That will give you and idea on which way to go.
p.atk stones = 90 * str modifier * 2.8 * p.atk modifier
~damage bonus from crit pwr = change crit pwr * crit rate
- dgosjgois
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Re: Beserker chit chat
The damage bonus factor for criticals is actually:
( 1 + critrate x critpower )
And you also need to divide by the old dmg bonus with old critrate/critpower stats.
But I prefer to use this formula instead:
Patk x ( 1 + critrate x critpower)
Calculate that value for both builds and compare which is higher (the actual value has no real meaning, but it still works for comparing one build with another).
If you now have 10k PAtk with 100% critrate and 225% critpower with only 4 tear vit/ 6 tear crit soulstones then:
10000 x ( 1 + 1.0 x 2.25 ) = 32500
Now adding 2x tear str (assuming 32% str/patk from belt, 10% str/patk from MC set and 18% Patk from HV buff) provides 588 Patk extra which means:
10588 x ( 1 + 1.0 x 2.25 ) = 34411
Adding 2x epic critpow (decimation) soulstones mean:
10000 x ( 1 + 1.0 x 2.342 ) = 33420
Which means that the Tear Str soulstones are better in this specific case. It might be a different story depending on the stats your character actually has (I just guessed the stats for my example).
( 1 + critrate x critpower )
And you also need to divide by the old dmg bonus with old critrate/critpower stats.
But I prefer to use this formula instead:
Patk x ( 1 + critrate x critpower)
Calculate that value for both builds and compare which is higher (the actual value has no real meaning, but it still works for comparing one build with another).
If you now have 10k PAtk with 100% critrate and 225% critpower with only 4 tear vit/ 6 tear crit soulstones then:
10000 x ( 1 + 1.0 x 2.25 ) = 32500
Now adding 2x tear str (assuming 32% str/patk from belt, 10% str/patk from MC set and 18% Patk from HV buff) provides 588 Patk extra which means:
10588 x ( 1 + 1.0 x 2.25 ) = 34411
Adding 2x epic critpow (decimation) soulstones mean:
10000 x ( 1 + 1.0 x 2.342 ) = 33420
Which means that the Tear Str soulstones are better in this specific case. It might be a different story depending on the stats your character actually has (I just guessed the stats for my example).
- yoyobuae
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Re: Beserker chit chat
Thank you guys for making the math for me
Finally, i found that being 6 tear crit + 6 tear vit is better for me in hc dungeon (hc betty/ash) and cube dungeon solo. If i want more dd, i go 2x ruthless str rings.
Non-buff i crit 260-290k earth shatter and 270-300k earth shaker. Even with good gears, i think i cant compete with other classes... mages spamming 500K+ every 2-3-4sec. I think that berserker is missing something to spam or more dd, maybe if they fix zephyr strike and make it like earth shatter, will be nice! hehe!
Thx!!
Alex
Finally, i found that being 6 tear crit + 6 tear vit is better for me in hc dungeon (hc betty/ash) and cube dungeon solo. If i want more dd, i go 2x ruthless str rings.
Non-buff i crit 260-290k earth shatter and 270-300k earth shaker. Even with good gears, i think i cant compete with other classes... mages spamming 500K+ every 2-3-4sec. I think that berserker is missing something to spam or more dd, maybe if they fix zephyr strike and make it like earth shatter, will be nice! hehe!
Thx!!
Alex
- 2_die_4
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Re: Beserker chit chat
lol another skill on a zerker like earth shatter = more OP. just focus on plussing ur cards up after your gear. hit a +3 earth shatter 2 weeks ago. costs money but it never gets replaced like gear and makes the mana a little more manageable. if zephyr strike were more like LOG SPLIT it would be amazing lol. but the 2 skills in the tank tree are high threat generators. just spamming those 2 aliong with the log split and wind cut while popping food and pots and you wont worry about agro. o and dont forget the 20% threat toggle. =]
- bhash90
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Re: Beserker chit chat
Earth shatter is awesome. And really helps me tanking without much problems.
Just a quick question.
I'm Vit/crit build atm so an Endairon set doesn't do much for me... would Rakashi give me a better bonus for offense?
Don't really wanna waste the money to check it out for myself.
Just a quick question.
I'm Vit/crit build atm so an Endairon set doesn't do much for me... would Rakashi give me a better bonus for offense?
Don't really wanna waste the money to check it out for myself.
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- brutalg
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Re: Beserker chit chat
Feral belt, Ruthless earrings and Ruthless rings are the best for offense (best critpower). Or Feral Boar rings if you want more MaxHP.
Rakashi set is better if you want even more survivability/accuracy (ie. extra vit/dex and +8% MaxHP), but comes at the cost of critpower.
Rakashi set is better if you want even more survivability/accuracy (ie. extra vit/dex and +8% MaxHP), but comes at the cost of critpower.
- yoyobuae
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Re: Beserker chit chat
Ihave been thinking of getting Ruthless earring , a ruthless ring and a ruthless belt instead of Endairon , any thoughts about this matter ?:)
Simply because i dont have STR stones on my gear and endairon isnt doing that much Effect,
Thoughts please,
Thanks.
Simply because i dont have STR stones on my gear and endairon isnt doing that much Effect,
Thoughts please,
Thanks.
- r0yalgaia
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Re: Beserker chit chat
Feral belt is better than Ruthless belt (10.0 critpow VS 5.1 critpower). Ruthless rings/earrings do have more critpow than feral ones. Boar rings provide a lots of additional Vit and MaxHP, though.
The PAtk bonus from Endairon set is not as good as it may appear. That +10% Patk does not mean a +10% increase in damage, because it is added on top of the belt pet bonus, the MC set bonus and HV buff bonus (ie. all percent based bonuses). This makes the overall damage increase be more like 6% or 7%.
Meanwhile a Feral belt, Ruthless earrings/rings would provide 29.6% critpower which results in damage increase of 7% thru 10% (depeding on your base crit ratio).
I prefer the Feral/ruthless combo better, since it's quick/easy to switch the Ruthless ring for Feral boar ring whenever more MaxHP is desired. With Endairon its not that easy because the entire set would need to be switched (and switching belts and reequipping all belt pets is quite slow).
The PAtk bonus from Endairon set is not as good as it may appear. That +10% Patk does not mean a +10% increase in damage, because it is added on top of the belt pet bonus, the MC set bonus and HV buff bonus (ie. all percent based bonuses). This makes the overall damage increase be more like 6% or 7%.
Meanwhile a Feral belt, Ruthless earrings/rings would provide 29.6% critpower which results in damage increase of 7% thru 10% (depeding on your base crit ratio).
I prefer the Feral/ruthless combo better, since it's quick/easy to switch the Ruthless ring for Feral boar ring whenever more MaxHP is desired. With Endairon its not that easy because the entire set would need to be switched (and switching belts and reequipping all belt pets is quite slow).
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Re: Beserker chit chat
r0yalgaia wrote:Ihave been thinking of getting Ruthless earring , a ruthless ring and a ruthless belt instead of Endairon , any thoughts about this matter ?:)
Simply because i dont have STR stones on my gear and endairon isnt doing that much Effect,
Thoughts please,
Thanks.
My exact same thoughts.
My Endairon set gave me like 1.5patk and had 79% crit rate and 231% crit pow
Now with my Feral belt, and ruthless earrings i have 1.5patk less but get like 84% crit rate and 274% crit pow unbuffed.
I think Endairon belt is better if you're a str build zerker but I'm Crit build so endairon doesn't do much for me.
Anyone know how long a T3 Earth Shatter mov spd debuff lasts?
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