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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby chargertc » July 11th, 2012, 12:11 am

160 zerker here
i had full ruthless gears 6 vit 6crit power on my t3 gear which did really well (even nicer on c/s stones)

now with mc gears....
750 evasion ftw and forget the vit stones (i still have 45k hp without them)
i am duel weild zerker
full primal +20 gear with full agility dex stones = o/p (the 2 x primal axes increase crit rate by over 22% alone and add lovely crit power)
dont need str stones either because all the pattk comes from the weapons
if i could get my stupid thingy working i would post some stats but meh it just dont go :/
full rakashi set is nice with s3 r7 uni as pet ( + 70 all stats ) and uni has heals
2 x s1 kentas 2 x s1 cerbs 1x s3 harpy on belt then use kynish

i dont miss anything at all ever , my damage is very nice and i dodge almost every attack when i accidently steal agro
my attack speed is nice to and even better on the kynish proc (reaches the 210 tier)

as for skill trees i use 203 as i love the full spiracles and self heal
who cares if i dont retain agro i am happy for someone else to die ! i dont lose exp this way and if i wanna look like i am trying to actually hold agro i turn on steel presence which is as useless as provoke

zerkers were never meant to be tanks and sole purpose of extreme damage
we cant compete vs mattk anyway so why bother even trying
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby r0yalgaia » July 11th, 2012, 12:52 am

u got crowded shits there,
u use 1h axes but not 1h axes tree
you have vit stones but nothing on belt thats supports them
Cerbs are clearly a waste there as they give what ? patk/str/acc ?
Well you have full str/patk from kentas so go get 2 s2 nightmares for full dex/acc instead
harpy also gives dex/atk spd i guess correct me if im wrong
you can use a s5 skeleton if ur such a fan of attack speed
and maybe have a dt to make pots for you , or a harpy
You have alot of different stuff going around in your build but not everything supports the other if you know what i mean
if i were you, i would make different sets;
Attack speed / Tank etc

Best of Luck =)
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby yoyobuae » July 11th, 2012, 5:24 pm

chargertc wrote:i dont miss anything at all ever , my damage is very nice and i dodge almost every attack when i accidently steal agromy attack speed is nice to and even better on the kynish proc (reaches the 210 tier)
chargertc wrote:zerkers were never meant to be tanks and sole purpose of extreme damage
we cant compete vs mattk anyway so why bother even trying
Such a sorry state the game is in now.

I have to point out that Berserker can be great tanks. Dare I say as good tanks as Templar/Merc, your berserker doesn't tank because: A) you refuse to, B) your DD is too low.
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby istuffdeadcats » July 13th, 2012, 4:27 am



@chargertc : the fact that you are 160 and don't even know the real effect on your belt is killing me. let me explain : 2 s0 kenta will already give you the max in str/patack, so the cerbs are a waste, better go with s2 nm like it was previously said.

If u really wanna be a dd zerk, which can be really good, go 0 2 3 (or even 0 3 2 if you want atack speed spikes for 30sec+), the 1st path in zerk tree is made for tanking only and you are obviously not willing to tank. I mean you dual wield and don't even have the maximum/perma barbarian rage/essence of thunder (which is really usefull in cube now).


By the way, a 2h axe zerk with the good path and correct setup will have enough hp/pdef to tank anything and will generate enough threat to outaggro (almost) anything. And yes I know what I'm talking about since that's what I do.

Now all i said is my opinion only, but if u realy like the dual wield dd setup, they go for it totally cuz right now you are wasting your potential.
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby bhash90 » July 13th, 2012, 2:54 pm

Hmmm zerkers were never meant to be tanks and cant vs matk so why even bother <-- this here i call shenanigans

163 zerker here on fenrir and tanks like a beast and i dp'd with royalgaia and he tanks excellently(not a word but who cares). threat toggle adds the hp/vit along with my 3 s5 hawkmen on belt. 2 s3 nms on belt for pacc + cerb pot puts me well over 650 pacc. last slot i switch off kynish/crusty and draka. rocking anessa set with this build puts me at 80k+ hp. No CS stones cuz ill wait for D3 to come out and i still tank cube/HM toe partys. mind you i use a 2h axe with earth shatter since im 3-0-2. Full feral gear with +20 armor and 2haxe for tanking

If u want to use dual axes for DD build i say get 2 s4 skells on belt agi increases atk speed as well. so more atk speeed via belt = less atk speed needed via stones/gears. and take a point into the middle tree b/c perma barb rage is amazing and the essence of thunder perma as well, (i tried it before i reset to tank mode). you can do vulcan runs like a beast lol. in cube dungeons, getting the -30%atk speed helps the dp alot with other debuffers.

Reasons we CAN tank:
crit power stoned, we are great with either dual/2h axe as long as the toggle is on and we use skills with provoke and such.
spiracle cannon + energy bomb = ranged attacks which do great damage and generate lots of threat
Get a longbow and +20 it as i have in HM so you can compete with mages and Vswitch wen mob comes close.


TL;DR i expect soon lol.
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby 2_die_4 » July 18th, 2012, 7:43 pm

Hi guys!! (this looks like a Berserker forum! Some monster stats right here wow!!

Im back from a long break (sold all i got before leaving). I m 155 Berserker with r7 golem and 0-2-3. Fenrir server!
I need help for my rebuild!

Currently i have an endairon set, belt pet (4x s4 orc and 2x s4 skel). I bought cheap MC gear (primal all except necklace and armor, all +4). Souls stone full agi + crit power. I can solo tols fine. I have good evasion and good atk speed. I spam skills when cd is over. Currently spiracle canon 85k crit and earth shaker 105k crit (not a lot but i have +4 d1 gears!).

Should i change soulstones for crit power and vitality (tank cube)?
Should i change belt pets (2x nm for pacc)?
Should i change endairon set (for rakashi? for feral gears/accesories like belt earrings and ring)?
SHould i modify MC skills path (for 2-0-3 or 3-0-2)? Earth shatter is a better skill than spiracle rush?
Do Zerker use the toggle -20% str and +20% vit?
Should i get 2 sets or gears set for atk power and for tanking? Or 1 good overall set will be fine...

I thank you for your help!
(sorry for english)
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby bhash90 » July 18th, 2012, 8:18 pm

Your main priority is getting ur gears up. try getting them up to at least +12-15 and MC d2 or old D3.

If u wanna tank, 2h axe zerkers usually do best. The toggle on the 1st tree helps alot with the 20% threat even if u lose 20% patk. thats if u wanna tank. critpow/vit stones with MC feral gear is best bet and unfortunately the most expensive. beltwise, im 3 s1 cerbs, 2 s5 yetis and crusty/kynish card. You want at least 500 pacc to hit in first room from what i seen. i missed alot wen i used to be 450 pacc and T2. Wen i hit T3 (162 now) i needed 400 to hit in first room. Tanking Budatkah u need around 650+ pacc.

If u wanna be a good DD, dual axes = better dd output. only thing in cube is that those buggers move from tiem to time and u have to move around those [gouda] floors. but get mix of feral/intesnse gears to keep that 262 plateau area and makes it better for debuffs like the essence of thunder to activate on mobs and get the CD decreased on rage.

1 step at a time,

Your character -> gear/belt priority. cheapest is going 2 kentas, 2 s4 yetis, 2 nm/skeletons
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby 2_die_4 » July 19th, 2012, 5:29 am

Thank you for your answer!!

Now i have 4 s4 orcs so im maximizing str-patk-vit-pdef. Ill try to get 2 nm staged to get my pacc up.
Next is my gears try to get d2 2h axe and d2 war armor and upp it till +11 to +15.

SO my next question is should i change my skills path... IM 0-2-3. Should i consider 3-0-2 or 2-0-3...

Thank you guys for your help!!
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby bhash90 » July 19th, 2012, 7:11 pm

well if you wanna be the tank that holds agro no problem, and have no problem with mana/ [gouda] healer issues then going for 3-0-2 like me would be perfect. with my threat toggle on, i hit for 500k crits and zephyr strike has a HIGH threat modifier (i believe they fixed it) even if its minor damage. +ing the earth skill much more manageable with mana after +2.



If u do suffer from the [gouda] healer issues, low mana at times then 2-0-3 would be for you. Spiracle rush makes amazing healing with the threat toggle. since it is percentage based, and better yet, its percentage based on overall meaning that if u raise ur HP, the MP healed goes up as well. So mana problems = a problem of the past. Full mana every 1min 30 sec AND all spiracles summoned up
A combo you can do if ur low mana and mob is needed a kick start is Energy charge > Spiracle rush > EB =]

Its all about how you handle ur zerker and who you play with alot
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby 2_die_4 » July 23rd, 2012, 7:44 pm

hello guys! Heres my last stats (first cube dungeon today, i wasnt tanking). I dont have hv pass.
Armor is only +9 and stones polished, no teardrops. Comments? Lak hp for tanking i think.


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I tried 3-0-2 build and earth shatter drain all my mp un 4 spams.. i cant manage that right now. 2-0-3 looks fine for tanking.
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby bhash90 » July 23rd, 2012, 8:27 pm

hmm mp drained in 4 spam? hmmm im always popping pots/food so i dont have it, but im OCD with it lol

What is ur stone/armor dura setup 2die4? curious
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby 2_die_4 » July 24th, 2012, 7:33 pm

Ty for reply!

I cant spam earth shatter + other skills on each mobs.. ill run out of mp in 3-4mobs. Idk if u have more mp than me...

Ruthless earrings
Devouring agi rings (2x)
Primal boots/gloves/boar's ring (2x)/necklace
Feral Armor/2h axe
(I have Franctic boots/gloves with blur and spry polished stones to switch to reach 262 plateau when dding/solo)
Stones: all polished vitality (guardian) and crit power (annihilation)
Belt: 4s s4 orcs 2x s4 skel (2 s1 nm on side in case and crusty)

In this screenshot, i was dding (dont remember what gears i had perfectly) surely i had devouring or franctic stuff to reach 262 plateau but dont remember if i swap for rings or gloves/boots or earrings...

To tank, i will only use feral/primal/ruthless stuff with stones polished guardian and annihilation. I should take a screenshot of this on me. Never tanked cube tho, im affraid to die too quickly.

Armor is only +9 atm. I tried to solo 1 mob in cube and i cant manage it, i didnt died but 3-4k hit is hard.
I should raise my pacc by belting nms but ill lose my atk speed :S i cant spam skills like crazy as Mercs or Templar.

Can 3 s1 cerb + 2 S4 yeti and crusty card be better for belpets???

Ty for replies!
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby saftsack00 » July 25th, 2012, 11:40 pm

Hey guys,

I am a T2 Berserker and I have the following questions: Right now I am using 6 vit and 6 str stones. Should I switch from str to cri ratio/crit power stones? I will lose lots of p.atk if I do so. Or will the passive that converts cri ratio into patk even this out?
I am also asking myself what set I should get (Endairon or Rakashi) for dd'ing purposes. Perhaps you could give me some advices.
Some info about my char: 2h axe, full ruthless voidwarp gear, belt: 4x S2 Hawks, S2 NM, boss card or 2nd S2 NM.

Ty very much!
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby bhash90 » July 26th, 2012, 6:24 pm

@SaftSack00
Ok since i take it u cant afford full feral gear, gives u plenty of critratio/power, i say lose the str and put crit ratio the idea is to have at least 35-40% crit ratio prebuffed. then with buffs you should get about 60ish%. with the gaia passive your skills should crit closer to 90%. Lack of patk means nothing wen ur normal hits hit for about 10k but with crit power+ratio is hits 20+k as an example. Now, i would tell you to try using a koala in ur last slot and see if that puts you high enough, if it does, then put crit power stones. Read previous posts for a setup with the MC gears.

For mc 2ndary sets, go endairon, 10%str, 10%patk is good addition to your dd. even with no str you gain at around 50ish. And patk if ur dual wielding should be in the 6k range at least, so your patk gets 600+ boost not counting buffs.
Rakashi set helps more if u need that extra boost to acc and hp. but it wont increase ur DD nowhere close to the endairon set.
hope this helps

@2die4u

for your build, since ur a atkspd person, i say lose the 2h axe and go dual wield. the amount of damage will be much higher since ur not a skill spammer like me and dont have the earth shatter skill or zephr strike. i can only see using the 3 cerbs+yetis for 2h axe tanker build. otherwise, 2s4skells/harpies + hawks for you.
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Re: Beserker chit chat

Postby 2_die_4 » July 26th, 2012, 7:12 pm

OK so finally i give a try to Earth Shatter. Pretty good skill to spam, it crit 260-270k. When i spam it for each dungeon or mc mobs, its good and easy to manage mp consumption. Last time i spam it like crazy, lol!
I will finally go 3-0-2! I want to tank Cube dungeon and its the only way, atk cant make me tank properly.

I want to reorganise my belt pets but idk wich one is the best.
Now: 4x s4 orc + 2x s1 nm
Possibility: 3x S1 Cerb + 2x S4 Yeti (But it cost a lot more)

Wich one is the best??

I cant affor 3x s3 cerb to max the stat. I know i will loose p.atk if i go with S1 Cerb but idk if Crusty card will be more effective with less p.atk from cerbs. Or should i stay with my old belt pets...hhhmmm.
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