Help Me Fix My Slayer Plz

[bradjenkins]

I'll just leave this here. Finally got my s3 harpy. Normally i have 253+106 atk speed, but this is when my kynish card proc'd ^.^
Full devouring except for 1 ruthless sword.
Only buffs are self buffs, vm buffs, and a dt pot....and of course s3 harpy unity and HV

I knew I could do it ^.^

[wutup2000]

Low P.atk for swords. I'm guessing your full Agi. Some atk spd stones in there as well (maybe even full 6/6).

I'd pump the p.atk. Higher p.atk = better ks.

Regardless of what people say about higher DPS = better ks. Spike damage has always been greater in rappelz than anything.

You can see a big difference in the HP bar of the mobs, when you max your p.atk stat. The gap's per dps is much 'sexier' to watch compared to a fast atk spd build.

But meh. Thats just me.

[bradjenkins]

Low P.atk for swords. I'm guessing your full Agi. Some atk spd stones in there as well (maybe even full 6/6).

I'd pump the p.atk. Higher p.atk = better ks.

Regardless of what people say about higher DPS = better ks. Spike damage has always been greater in rappelz than anything.

You can see a big difference in the HP bar of the mobs, when you max your p.atk stat. The gap's per dps is much 'sexier' to watch compared to a fast atk spd build.

But meh. Thats just me.

I would like to see bigger numbers, but I need the high atk speed to be able to solo without a healing pet using octobuff. My armor is still only +11. I'm slowly working my way up to something higher tho

Also, I'm 6 atk speed, and 6 agi stones, using devouring agi rings. I've never seen what my stats look like with full buffs, but this build does pretty well. Also, since I have my AI so high void procs less with the 262 atk speed plateau, whereas with this, i pretty much have constant voidwarp and kynish. It's very nice^.^

[wutup2000]

If you reach the 349+ atk spd plateau, void proc will no longer be an issue as it procs really high above 349+ atk spds. AI may seem like it lowered the chance of void proc, but really its all random.

[larog]

Been reading through this whole thread with great interest as i have a soon to be T2 slayer myself,and there's lots of good pointers here.
With regards to belt setups i'm surprised to see that (for PvE at least) noone seems to consider orcs\hawks as a option instead of yetis,and it makes me wonder exactly why? well apart from the price difference

If anyone T2 could give some insight to how a setup with devouring armor\belt and unrelenting\ruthless boots&gloves would work i'd appreciate it,as i'm not going for the uber attack-speeds the 210-255 plateus are plenty good.
My belt setup that up to now have served me well is s0 kenta,2xs2 hawks,2xs3 skells and SLK card.
If needed i can post a screenie later of my current stats as i currently don't have rappelz available.

Oh,could care less about pvp btw

[steelchest]

;o havnt checked back here in a while, also nice to see what uve done so far jenkins

@T2 poster above me (to lazy to quote atm xD) i have also been messing around with optimizing crit power while trying to reach the 262 atk speed plateau, with hv buffs and cm wind weapon + my own asuran haste and enhanced quick pots and s3 harpy unity, im able to get about 264 atk speed and 166 or so crit power

if you are willing to go down to the 212 plateau you can probably pump even more crit power by switching out some atk speed or agi stone for crit power ones, and go full str, with a mix of agi/atk speed and crit power.

going mostly full ruthless (except for a +20 devouring sword and +13 devouring armor) ... ill have a screenie up if server decide to work again soon xD

here we go

[larog]

;o havnt checked back here in a while, also nice to see what uve done so far jenkins

@T2 poster above me (to lazy to quote atm xD) i have also been messing around with optimizing crit power while trying to reach the 262 atk speed plateau, with hv buffs and cm wind weapon + my own asuran haste and enhanced quick pots and s3 harpy unity, im able to get about 264 atk speed and 166 or so crit power

if you are willing to go down to the 212 plateau you can probably pump even more crit power by switching out some atk speed or agi stone for crit power ones, and go full str, with a mix of agi/atk speed and crit power.

going mostly full ruthless (except for a +20 devouring sword and +13 devouring armor) ... ill have a screenie up if server decide to work again soon xD

here we go

Thank you very much for the great pointers,this will really help with knowing what to expect I currently have a devouring armor and belt lined up,and going with also a devouring sword and the rest ruthless seems like a very good idea,actually didn't expect to get that high a crit power as you have,pleasant surprise
I will definately keep this in mind when looking for gears and hopefully remember to post back here with a screenie of my stats when i get there for comparison

[steelchest]

one note about the way i try to build my slayer... i never put much thought into pdef, especially when chosing belt pets ... since imo its sorta more fun when you could max evasion and not be touched for 5 or 6 hm mobs... although i do also have a heal slave nearby if im gonna solo anyways
if you arent able to have a 2nd account running for heals, or arent able to keep a heal pet summoned because u need a harpy/dt unity running to reach a certain atk speed plateau, these builds might get you killed more often
....so just something for consideration xD

[wutup2000]

Trusting in evasion is a gamble at best. You could have 800+ evasion and still get hit 3 times in a row with heavy blows that could certainly drop your HP in less than 2 seconds.

The mechanics of Evasion in this game is questionable. And given the nerfs as it is for the Assassin Class, might as well just go Glass Cannon instead of wasting your time and money on defensive tactics.

[larog]

Trusting in evasion is a gamble at best. You could have 800+ evasion and still get hit 3 times in a row with heavy blows that could certainly drop your HP in less than 2 seconds.

The mechanics of Evasion in this game is questionable. And given the nerfs as it is for the Assassin Class, might as well just go Glass Cannon instead of wasting your time and money on defensive tactics.

I agree on the point you have on evasion,i don't trust it that much either. However i don't think it's a waste to spend a bit on defensive tactics if it benefit your style of playing,specially in terms of belt pets. For my style having the 15% extra p def from my belted hawks is golden,as i only do pve and mostly solo.
With my current setup i have enough att speed to reach the 210 plateau with self buffs only and enough p def to solo same lvl hm mobs with my wolf that atm is lvl 143,bloody blade and pots\scrolls usually is sufficient to keep me alive.

one note about the way i try to build my slayer... i never put much thought into pdef, especially when chosing belt pets ... since imo its sorta more fun when you could max evasion and not be touched for 5 or 6 hm mobs... although i do also have a heal slave nearby if im gonna solo anyways
if you arent able to have a 2nd account running for heals, or arent able to keep a heal pet summoned because u need a harpy/dt unity running to reach a certain atk speed plateau, these builds might get you killed more often
....so just something for consideration xD

As for the first sentence: I do hope you mean this in a dp setting for pulling and so on,otherwise it makes no sense to me at all.Just can't see a reason for not wanting to be touched by 5-6 mobs when you can pick off the mobs controlled one by one with little risk involved when soloing.

As for the other sentence: Sorry,but i damned near facepalmed. If a build might get you killed more often,why consider it in the first place?
Imo your first priority is to figure out how you like to play and what you wanna go for style- and stat-wise, then consider builds that best suit those priorities.

just my honest opinion

[steelchest]

Trusting in evasion is a gamble at best. You could have 800+ evasion and still get hit 3 times in a row with heavy blows that could certainly drop your HP in less than 2 seconds.

The mechanics of Evasion in this game is questionable. And given the nerfs as it is for the Assassin Class, might as well just go Glass Cannon instead of wasting your time and money on defensive tactics.

I agree on the point you have on evasion,i don't trust it that much either. However i don't think it's a waste to spend a bit on defensive tactics if it benefit your style of playing,specially in terms of belt pets. For my style having the 15% extra p def from my belted hawks is golden,as i only do pve and mostly solo.
With my current setup i have enough att speed to reach the 210 plateau with self buffs only and enough p def to solo same lvl hm mobs with my wolf that atm is lvl 143,bloody blade and pots\scrolls usually is sufficient to keep me alive.

one note about the way i try to build my slayer... i never put much thought into pdef, especially when chosing belt pets ... since imo its sorta more fun when you could max evasion and not be touched for 5 or 6 hm mobs... although i do also have a heal slave nearby if im gonna solo anyways
if you arent able to have a 2nd account running for heals, or arent able to keep a heal pet summoned because u need a harpy/dt unity running to reach a certain atk speed plateau, these builds might get you killed more often
....so just something for consideration xD

As for the first sentence: I do hope you mean this in a dp setting for pulling and so on,otherwise it makes no sense to me at all.Just can't see a reason for not wanting to be touched by 5-6 mobs when you can pick off the mobs controlled one by one with little risk involved when soloing.

As for the other sentence: Sorry,but i damned near facepalmed. If a build might get you killed more often,why consider it in the first place?
Imo your first priority is to figure out how you like to play and what you wanna go for style- and stat-wise, then consider builds that best suit those priorities.

just my honest opinion

xD
that was sorta my point tho......as far as hm dp/pulling, yeah even with a maxed eva build i dont get hit very hard since my armor is decent enough even without pdef belt pets.

For the "you need heals part" that was just considering that some people dot have armor +ed to the point .where they could go full eva and not really worry about getting hit hard.... and also i do run a 2nd acout healing so damage isnt really a concern even if i do get hit.

i mean, i could survive on bloody blade alone like that, but having a healer gives more leeway