How much Attackspeed?

[xenalite]

Could someone enlighten me on how do the Attack speed buffs work?

I have 229 base Attack speed. I pop a Quick Potion Superior (9% Attack Speed). It should give me +20 Attack Speed, but it only gives +14 and +1 in base stat. So, in total I get 230+14 = 244.

When I use Harpy Unity only, my Attack Speed goes up from 230 to 235 + 14. Where did the extra 5 base attack speed come from?

[blubber000]

@Elite
Thanks

@xenalite
First you have to add separatly all absolute bonus values (all without %) and the relative bonus value (the ones with %), then you can multiply this 2 values.
It looks like that you already have some other sources of relative bonus values, like belt skellies or something like that.
For example your attackspeed:
sum of absoulute values without harpy unity: 166.5
sum of relative values without pot: 38%
-> 166.5*1.35=229.77=229 base attackspeed

with pot the sum of relaitve values rises to 47%
-> 166.5*1.47=244.755=244 attackspeed
(0.09*166.5=14.985, so buff effect is shown as 14, so its 230+14)

with harpy unity: sum of absolute values rises to 166.5+14=180.5
-> 180.5*1.38=249.09=249
(buff effect is show as 14 so its 235+14)

Edit: I just found that someone in a german Rappelz forum tried to test it for a sin (based on the tests here). He tested 30 secs (Cd of Dark Strike) and found the 136 plateau between 260 and 340 attackspeed. Above 340 he reaches 168 hits, probably the 170 plateau. 1 attack is here a doublehit, so a sin makes in 1 minute 136 doublehits (or 272 hits).

[elitexile]

Anyone care to test with a 2H Mace, the plateau before 256?

2h mace:

???-205 attack speed = 92 attacks per minute
206-209 attack speed = 102 attacks per minute
210-255 attack speed = 110 attacks per minute
256-261 attack speed = 128 attacks per minute
262-338 attack speed = 136 attacks per minute
339-348 attack speed = 170 attacks per minute
349-??? attack speed = 182 attacks per minute

Seems to be the same as dirk.

[blubber000]

The sin experince i found in the german rappelz forum seems like there is possibly the same scheme for a sin like for the BS.

Do you think it depends on class or on weapon type?
If it depends on class do a sh have the same bounds with dirk than he have with xbow?
If it depends on weapon type why is bow and xbow different and dirk and 2h mace are the same? What are the types?

Perhaps i can test sh with dirk, but i don't think i can reach enough attackspeed.

[reviagain]

The sin experince i found in the german rappelz forum seems like there is possibly the same scheme for a sin like for the BS.

Do you think it depends on class or on weapon type?
If it depends on class do a sh have the same bounds with dirk than he have with xbow?
If it depends on weapon type why is bow and xbow different and dirk and 2h mace are the same? What are the types?

Perhaps i can test sh with dirk, but i don't think i can reach enough attackspeed.

It is weapon not class, from the sounds of it mele weapons seem to have the same break points while bow and x-bow have them but at different points

[knightinggail]

I imagine that the recoil animation differ between x-bow and bow.

If it is true that the melee weapons have the same plateu points then perhaps the same will happen if dual weild were tested.

This would be best tested by elitexile for consistency.
I greatly appreciate all of the work taht elitexile has already done.

Perhaps this could be done using the archer dual weilding axes?

[foxalt]

2h mace:

???-205 attack speed = 92 attacks per minute
206-209 attack speed = 102 attacks per minute
210-255 attack speed = 110 attacks per minute
256-261 attack speed = 128 attacks per minute
262-338 attack speed = 136 attacks per minute
339-348 attack speed = 170 attacks per minute
349-??? attack speed = 182 attacks per minute

Seems to be the same as dirk.

349-501 attack speed = 372 attacks per two minutes
502-??? attack speed = 504 attacks per two minutes

These thresholds are suitable for the assassin with two swords, a crossbow and at other thresholds.
You can not find the thresholds below 200, and they are there ...
not exactly found the thresholds and the actual rate of attack ...
a month ago at our Russian Rappelz laid accurate data on the crossbow and two swords.

PS: sorry for the bad english

[elitexile]

It turns out all "melee" weapons (including staves) have the same plateaus; only xbow and longbow have their own. Class doesn't matter as I tested a few of the same weapons on both my archer and BS and got consistent results. Dual wielding doesn't have its own plateaus either. The full list of my results:

All melee weapons:
(for dual wielding, two hits counts as one attack in this list)
96-103 attack speed = 50 attacks per minute
104-104 attack speed = 52 attacks per minute
105-115 attack speed = 55 attacks per minute
116-116 attack speed = 57 attacks per minute
117-129 attack speed = 61 attacks per minute
130-130 attack speed = 64 attacks per minute
131-147 attack speed = 68 attacks per minute
148-149 attack speed = 73 attacks per minute
150-171 attack speed = 78 attacks per minute
172-174 attack speed = 84 attacks per minute
175-205 attack speed = 92 attacks per minute
206-209 attack speed = 102 attacks per minute
210-255 attack speed = 110 attacks per minute
256-261 attack speed = 128 attacks per minute
262-338 attack speed = 136 attacks per minute
339-348 attack speed = 170 attacks per minute
349-501 attack speed = 182 attacks per minute
*502-??? attack speed = 250+ attacks per minute?

*Credit to Crimnor for confirming this plateau

Crossbow:
98-105 attack speed = 50 arrows per minute
106-106 attack speed = 52 arrows per minute
107-122 attack speed = 55 arrows per minute
123-123 attack speed = 59 arrows per minute
124-135 attack speed = 61 arrows per minute
136-147 attack speed = 68 arrows per minute
148-149 attack speed = 75 arrows per minute
150-179 attack speed = 78 arrows per minute
180-185 attack speed = 86 arrows per minute
186-239 attack speed = 91 arrows per minute
240-244 attack speed = 102 arrows per minute
245-250 attack speed = 110 arrows per minute
251-348 attack speed = 136-138 arrows per minute
349-359 attack speed = 170-172 arrows per minute
360-??? attack speed = 182-184 arrows per minute

Longbow:
95-109 attack speed = 50 arrows per minute
110-110 attack speed = 52 arrows per minute
111-121 attack speed = 55 arrows per minute
122-130 attack speed = 61 arrows per minute
131-159 attack speed = 69 arrows per minute
160-166 attack speed = 75 arrows per minute
167-176 attack speed = 78 arrows per minute
177-179 attack speed = 89 arrows per minute
180-212 attack speed = 92 arrows per minute
213-216 attack speed = 102 arrows per minute
217-310 attack speed = 110 arrows per minute
311-328 attack speed = 136 arrows per minute
329-348 attack speed = 170 arrows per minute
349-??? attack speed = 182 arrows per minute

349-501 attack speed = 372 attacks per two minutes
502-??? attack speed = 504 attacks per two minutes

These thresholds are suitable for the assassin with two swords, a crossbow and at other thresholds.

372 attacks per two minutes at 349+ attack speed is somewhat close to what I got with melee weapons - crossbow doesn't reach that plateau until 360+ attack speed though.

[w1ndows]

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[watser]

Now sticky please

[elitexile]

Harpy has the exact same plateaus as melee weapons, regardless of what weapon is on the harpy. I found literally every break point from 96 to 210 attack speed with my harpy and they're exactly the same as the melee ones I posted above. I tested using longbow, dirk, and no weapon at all and got the same results for certain plateaus (couldn't test them all obviously due to differences between weapons in base attack speed), so the type of weapon makes no difference. Didn't test with any other pet but I'm going to assume this is true for all pets.

[kaunalapsi55]

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I approve of this vote

Thanks a ton exile!

[wutup2000]

@Elite
Thanks

@xenalite
First you have to add separatly all absolute bonus values (all without %) and the relative bonus value (the ones with %), then you can multiply this 2 values.
It looks like that you already have some other sources of relative bonus values, like belt skellies or something like that.
For example your attackspeed:
sum of absoulute values without harpy unity: 166.5
sum of relative values without pot: 38%
-> 166.5*1.35=229.77=229 base attackspeed

with pot the sum of relaitve values rises to 47%
-> 166.5*1.47=244.755=244 attackspeed
(0.09*166.5=14.985, so buff effect is shown as 14, so its 230+14)

with harpy unity: sum of absolute values rises to 166.5+14=180.5
-> 180.5*1.38=249.09=249
(buff effect is show as 14 so its 235+14)

Edit: I just found that someone in a german Rappelz forum tried to test it for a sin (based on the tests here). He tested 30 secs (Cd of Dark Strike) and found the 136 plateau between 260 and 340 attackspeed. Above 340 he reaches 168 hits, probably the 170 plateau. 1 attack is here a doublehit, so a sin makes in 1 minute 136 doublehits (or 272 hits).

So...many...numbers...can't...ughhh...

[teutonnen]

Useful calculations

So...many...numbers...can't...ughhh...

Just reach 261 atkspeed or 341 and you're done.

[w1ndows]

Useful calculations

So...many...numbers...can't...ughhh...

Just reach 262 atkspeed or 349 and you're done.