Help Me Fix My Slayer Plz

[steelchest]

The next thing you should consider is how you are going to get to 262 (or higher if you want) atk speed.
Go find a CM at minimum to buff with wind weapon, and also grab a enhanced quick pot and harpy/dt pot to see what atk speed you get up to. After you determined that you can make it to 262, start working on your crit power.
It might be possible for you to switch out kynish for a crusty card if you dont need the boss card effect to hit 262..... other than that theres nothing i can think to say atm xD

[xsixaxis]

I've changed a few things. This pic is obviously with wrath
My current build:
Sword:
+20 Devouring
+14 unrelenting

Armor:
+10 devouring

Rings:
2x Voracious luck rings

Earrings:
R5 ND patk +4% crit ratio earrings

Belt:
+3 Devouring 5 slot

Helmet:
T1 CS Helm

Rest:
Voracious

Belt Pets:
2x s0 kenta
s3 skel
s4 skel
SLK card

Stones:
6 Epic Str
6 Epic Agi

TP Distribution:
0 2 2 (havent made the sword yet)

Does this look OK? What should be fixed next?

Now just get buffed the build is actually very good
But maybe drop the str stones they don't really do much
Crit power or vit would be better or if your just short on atk speed use a flurry stone or 2

[evilite]

I've changed a few things. This pic is obviously with wrath
My current build:
Sword:
+20 Devouring
+14 unrelenting

Armor:
+10 devouring

Rings:
2x Voracious luck rings

Earrings:
R5 ND patk +4% crit ratio earrings

Belt:
+3 Devouring 5 slot

Helmet:
T1 CS Helm

Rest:
Voracious

Belt Pets:
2x s0 kenta
s3 skel
s4 skel
SLK card

Stones:
6 Epic Str
6 Epic Agi

TP Distribution:
0 2 2 (havent made the sword yet)

Does this look OK? What should be fixed next?

Glass cannon! Anyway, from the looks of it, if you reach a decent attackspeed, go for some crit power. Your crit rate is good so why not take full advantage of the crit hits?!

[bradjenkins]

So I checked with wind weapon and a dt pot. I can only get 243.1 atk speed if I keep my bp out for healing. If I drop all my str for atk speed stones I can hit the plateau, but I lose between 650 and 800 patk (didnt want to do the math ) but I tried that and it made me want to cry. Ks was a lil slower and my hits werent as big.

I suppose my other option would be to make a full set of slaves so I won't need the bp, then pick up a 145+ harpy so I can get it's unity and hit the plateau. That is assuming the harpy unity and dt pot don't get affected by the dual wield penalty. I just did the math, I didnt try it out on my toon. If they are affected I can only hit 256 atk speed :/.

My only other option is to buy HV, but I refuse to spend real money on a free to play game. If I wanted to pay I'd choose a higher quality game.

[steelchest]

So I checked with wind weapon and a dt pot. I can only get 243.1 atk speed if I keep my bp out for healing. If I drop all my str for atk speed stones I can hit the plateau, but I lose between 650 and 800 patk (didnt want to do the math ) but I tried that and it made me want to cry. Ks was a lil slower and my hits werent as big.

I suppose my other option would be to make a full set of slaves so I won't need the bp, then pick up a 145+ harpy so I can get it's unity and hit the plateau. That is assuming the harpy unity and dt pot don't get affected by the dual wield penalty. I just did the math, I didnt try it out on my toon. If they are affected I can only hit 256 atk speed :/.

My only other option is to buy HV, but I refuse to spend real money on a free to play game. If I wanted to pay I'd choose a higher quality game.

a couple more things to consider would be getting a crusty card to replace slk ( i really dont remember if ive said this before or not, or if anyone else has xD) and possibly getting a set of attack speed earrings to replace thi crit ratio ones.

Also try to upgrade some of the less essential stuff (rings, gloves,boots) to devouring if you have the luck or cash to do so, i believe you can get to 262 easily with that. and yes a set of buffslaves would help greatly, even if they are just lvl 90 wq slaves, it would be worth the time to invest in lvling some considering you are very close to the next plateau... AND a huna slave would make up for the lost crit % from the r5 earrings if you decide to switch to atk speed ones.

none final note regarding buffslaves. IF you are fully buffed, that bp might not be necessary, considering that you wont be taking much damage from nm mobs if thats where u decide to go solo, a bloody blade crit can keep u alive while cd is running if you play it right...... but for hm soloing keep the bp , but maybe have it summoned on a slave (again if you chose to lvl some)
sorry for the wall o text xD

[steelchest]

Ok, a little bit of comparison time.
Our builds are pretty much identical except for the the crit ratio nd earring, and im using a devouring agi ring and a devouring luck ring.... i am also t2 so theres the set bonus.... and i do have a few more jlvls .... BUT still its pretty much the same

Edit: gear xD
+14 ruthless t2 sword
+10 devouring aetherblade
+13 devouring t2 armor
devouring agi and luck rings
devouring r7 patk earrings
devouring boots
everything else is vora

no buffs, same r5 crit ratio earrings that you use


swapped in r7 devouring earrings


now with a lvl 145+ harpy unity(unstaged) and superiour quick pot


now with a s3 harpy unity(lvl 18) + superior quick pot


finally, lvl 18 harpy unity, superior quick pot, AND a crusty card instead of a kynish card


and with that, you can get over 262 atk speed, and you havnt even had to look for cm/vm buffs

going from a set up similar to your, to mine with just unity and superior quick pots shed an increase of 50 atk speed without any other buffs, not even asuran haste, so im sure that if you try something similar to what ive shown, you can gett at least 262 with no problem.

also one last note, with my final example build, i can get about 253 attack speed with no harpy unity and only cm buffs(for any situation where you use a bp), so with just an additional dt or harpy pot, 262 shouldn't be a challenge.

[casvalzd]

Really?
I could hit 262 with....
VM Buffs
Normal Quickpot
Ruthless mainhand sword
Ruthless Armor
Voracious everything else
Devouring AGI Rings
6 AGI, 2 Flurry, 4 STR


I swear, I die a little on the inside when I see a sin with full Devouring equips. Huge waste of stats. Also, with the sheer amount of attacks you're pumping out at the 262 atkspd plat, you don't really need crit%. You're putting out more crits in the same amount of time as other classes with the same crit%.

[wutup2000]

Full Devouring sin, +20 swords, Str/atk. spd. beats your little setup. Once a sin reaches well over 339+ atk spd... no class can out aggro his/her DD.

That dishes out well over 200k dmg per second. The more flood damage counter you see in your screen, the higher that DPS goes. So don't complain to me about how [gouda] a waste of time it is to invest in a full dev sin.

You obviously don't know your facts.
/trolloff

lul.

[steelchest]

Really?
I could hit 262 with....
VM Buffs
Normal Quickpot
Ruthless mainhand sword
Ruthless Armor
Voracious everything else
Devouring AGI Rings
6 AGI, 2 Flurry, 4 STR


I swear, I die a little on the inside when I see a sin with full Devouring equips. Huge waste of stats. Also, with the sheer amount of attacks you're pumping out at the 262 atkspd plat, you don't really need crit%. You're putting out more crits in the same amount of time as other classes with the same crit%.

well this setup is really meant to answer the op's question, at least in regard to reaching attack speed plateaus. Now if it were a pt where i had full buffs and whatnot, id switch out the devouring aetherblade for a ruthless one, and the same with the armor

... and yes crit ratio DOES help, if you have 262 and do a good amount of damage with low crit ratio... then you will just do MORE damage with a higher ccrit ratio(and power) lol

[bradjenkins]

So I just did more math, if i swap out my last 3 epic str stones I lose around 250 more patk, but then with devouring rings and earrings, an enhanced quick pot, and a dt pot I can hit 262 and keep my bp out. My only problem is my hp. Idk if I can put out enough damage at t1 w/o voidwarp to solo hc toa so they dont get more than like 2 crits in and kill me......

There is no winning at t1

For my math I used this (going by memory since I dont have rappelz open):
flurry stones: 3.8
devouring rings:10.1
DT pot: 17.1
quick pot superior and asuran haste: +18 to base (i dont remember the actual value it gives, but i know currently it gives +18 along with asuran haste)
Devouring earrings: 4

dual wield pentalty: -20% atk speed

193+18+.8*(3.8*3*1.3+17.1 +10.1*1.3*2)+4 = 261.544
so if I swap the quick pot superior for an enhanced one I should get it ^.^

[yoyobuae]

@bradjenkins: Your math is a mess.

You should always add together all fixed atkspd bonuses first, add together all percentile atkspd bonuses and then multiply those two values. If dual wielding then multiply the result by 0.8.

So your calculation for atkspd should look something like:
(base + weapon + passive + agi*0.1 + dura + stones + asuran_haste) * (1.0 + belt + quick_pot + wind_weapon + HV) * 0.8

Using this screenshot as example:

*** Fixed
base = 100
weapon (1h sword) = -5
passive = +5
agi = 405
dura = +48
stones (none atkspd) = +0
asuran haste = +5

*** Percentile
belt (s3 & s4 skel) = +31%
quick pot (superior) = +9%
no wind weapon
no HV

(100 - 5 + 5 + 405*0.1 + 48 + 0 + 5) * (1 + 0.31 + 0.09 + 0 + 0) * 0.8 = 216.72

[bradjenkins]

lol well at any rate, I figured it out. I can keep 34% crit ratio and get 263 atk speed with a dt pot. I tried it earlier ^.^ and actually after dropping str for atk speed, my ks is about the same and my hp is lower than it is if i use 2 str stones and nd str rings. With buffs i'm sure the 262 plateau is much better tho (also once I hit t2 it will be superior)

*Oh no's! My identity is revealed!!!!!*
Anyway, tyvm. I'm aiming for t2 tonight or tomorrow (154 and 56% right now) and then I'll be back with more questions

[wutup2000]

Nerds. :B

No way in hell did I do this much calculation for my t2 builds

But Good luck any hoo. Hope you get your 'perfect' build.

[bradjenkins]

A friend on Fenrir showed me his stats and that it is possible with hv to hit the 350 atk speed plateau with 2x Ruthless swords, an s3 harpy unity, some altered pieces, and a dt pot. Next stop, mega-DD

[wutup2000]

Assuming your rich. Yes that is possible