Help Me Fix My Slayer Plz

[bradjenkins]

I wanted to use dirks, but a friend gave me a great deal on my t1 new style swords. He gave me a +14 unrelenting and +9 ruthless for 1b total. My current armor is +14 r6 devouring hunter armor (exactly 1k pdef). I'm using a t1 devouring helmet (not the cs helm...), r5 devouring gloves, boots, and belt.

For soloing I use 1 voracious r7 str ring and 1 nd str ring (I find this gives me better ks than a luck ring, and i gain some hp which is nice) and for hc i use 2 nd vit rings (along with a fleeting set with vit/str stones). My earrings are the r5 patk ones that add 4% crit ratio. Necklace is 10+1 r5 devouring. Belting 2 s0 kentas, an s3 and an s4 skel.

I currently use the 210 atk speed plateau. I use epic str and epic atk speed stones in all my gear and have 193+17 atk speed using only self buffs and a quick pot. I have around 25% crit ratio, and 90% crit power.

My tp breakdown is 0 0 3 at the moment. I can't find help with king of creatures, and don't want to waste money on king of steel until I'm geared

What are the holes in my build? I'll take a screenshot and post it here when the server buffs are gone, so my actual base stats will be shown.

I just feel like something is horribly wrong with my build after looking at the post your stats thread in the general forum. Any help building my slayer a lil better would be nice.

These are my stats with the server buffs and only self buffs, no unities or anything.

Swapping atk speed stones with agi stones led to this result

[wutup2000]

1) Get the t1 cs helm. Reason: Full set stat bonus.
2) Sell the swords. Invest in d3 devouring/unrelenting dirks (+10 minimum)
3) Get a d3 t1 devouring armor (+10 minimum)
4) Get atk spd/crit ratio rings (d3 duras)
5) Get 2x s4 skels, 3x s5 salas (...good luck) or 2x kenta or 2x s5 pant.
6) Get SLK boss card.
7) PvE: Vit/Atk spd. PvP: Str/crit. ratio/agi (Stone builds)
Eight) TP input: 0 3 2 or 2 3 0 (if your going dirks)

By now, you should have realized the assassin class is quite expensive, if not the most expensive class in the game... so expect to spend billions

If your in a budget, just stick to PvE. Simpler that way. Other than that, that list should get you started somewhere.

[steelchest]

I agree with the above poster on most of the comments, especially with regards to the belt pets. For the armor, at least make sure u have a full r7 set, you dont particularly NEED +10 devouring(or any other d3) but it does help a hell of a lot more than d2. Now if you can get a set of +10 d3 armor, the vit/atk speed wouldnt really be neccesary for pve, since with my current pve belt setup, 2x kenta, 2x s3 skellys, 1 s4 wolf, and crusty (im t2 but really, it works nicely even if voidwarp doesnt proc), i can go full str/agi stones and either dodge about 60+% of the time, and then get hit for minimum damage when mobs do land a hit.
Also considering the boost in atk speed and eva that you got from switching your stones from atk speed to agi, maybe consider going vit/agi or vit/str and full agi if you cant get a decent set of armor.
As for the swords...... well they arent good for pvp especially considering how good twilight strike is, but if you arent focusing on pvp much, then swords will do fine.

[wutup2000]

Yea just stick with your swords if you prefer PvE. You arleady got them d3 so might as well keep them.

[bradjenkins]

with the swords what attack speed plateau should i go for? with vit and agi I can hit the 210 one and have high evasion, but I might just use str and agi and only solo normal mode tols and toa, instead of risking death in hc.

[wutup2000]

Get staged skels if you want to hit high atk spd plateaus + takin boss card helps. Vit/atk spd is a good defence build especially for pve and in DPs. If I went PvE sin instead of my current PvP stuffs, id go Vit/Atk spd, belt 2x panteras/kentas, 2x s4 skels and w/e boss card you want and probably a Yeti for last slot to add that extra pdef + max hp.

Also a good sword build for slayers would be to go 3 0 2 or 3 1 1 (Phantasm is useless with activating self buffs i.e void, sterling haste, boss cards). A higher + card on Assassin Impact does better results.

Already with that setup you could solo anything in NM Toa or Tols, you just need buffs + a good dd pet or healing pet. You need to test things out and see for yourself. No point receiving tonnes of info if you dont put it to good use.

P.S. Str/Agi build is a PvP build. Also works with PvE but your more squishy.

[bradjenkins]

Currently using s3 and s4 skels and 2x s0 kentas. My patk drops by just over 1k main hand if i drop swords, also, doesn't the added 6% patk in the second tree also work on swords? In which case 1 2 2 would be a good way to go?

[bradjenkins]

So i just played with my build a bit. (i only have 4 tp at the moment), i tried
1 0 3, 2 0 2, 2 2 0, and 0 2 2. I found that the activation of the skill in the first tree is so rare that i dont even want to bother with it....It seemed dumb to have a skill that you need 7x stack of the evasion skill. I was in TOLS and pulled 2 rooms of mobs on me to get it to stack to 2, with me just standing there for 15 seconds. So right now I'm at 0 2 2, seems pretty solid, gonna try to get some dirks in the near future, but I seem to be alright. With full buffs i have less then a chip ks currently.

Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.

[xxryoohkixx]

Also a good sword build for slayers would be to go 3 0 2 or 3 1 1 (Phantasm is useless with activating self buffs i.e void, sterling haste, boss cards). A higher + card on Assassin Impact does better results.

I'm not sure what you mean by saying that Phantasm is useless with activating self buffs like voidwarp. I know for a fact that voidwarp will activate with Phantasm on. I double-checked that last night while duoing.

I've gone 2-0-3 with my sin and am liking it. Honestly, I have 2 points in the first tree for the extra movement since I like to run fast The little bit extra pdef/hp is blah. The stacking skill I've never ever had stack enough times to use. If it didn't have the extra movement, I'd probably be 0-2-3 for the extra patk.

[wutup2000]

Maybe it was a bug from the first days of r7 part 3 release, and they had just fixed it couple weeks ago without any patch notice as usual. Dunno.

But before I switched to dirks, I had 2 0 3, exactly like yours, using swords and my AI was +2, atk spd was well over 262+, infact around 339 with SLK activated and whenever I switched on Phantasm none of the self buffs activated until the duration (30s) was over, then i'd see the triggers happening: Voidwarp Focus and Giant Growth.

All phantasm does is give you 100% AI for 30 seconds and IMO its more of a PvE skill than a PvP one. That's just my opinion on it.

If this thread is aimed at a more PvE orientated sin, then by all means go for Phantasm as it is great for PvE. Those extra hits with 100% AI increases the KS nicely. No doubt about it.

[bradjenkins]

I'm a PVE sin for sure. I have 1 pk my entire time playing (4 years) and it was on a bot. My Duel knowledge is completely non-existant. I've only ever been in 3 duels. Mainly I want to be able to solo HC.

[ebathory]

If u are PvE sin u gotta use swords not dirks, get s4 skellies for more at.speed from agi(2) or s3 harpies(2) for more acc from dex// 2x yeti s4 // 2x kenta // u can have 1 nm in case u need high accuracy // takin, aurumis, crustalino, kynish are your bosscards get what u can get, its good to have all and use optional. thats for belt.

try to get devouring swords (or ruthless if u cant find devo) and armor, u can use different type gloves and boots (depends on prupose) get a couple devouring rings , couple ruthless and ND vit ofc. oh and dont forget the CS T1 helm

For the stones i can say just test it and decide yourself how to share stones. start with having 6 attack speed stones and 6 other whaever u want, u will feel that u need some vit stones too im sure Hope that helps good luck =)

[steelchest]

So i just played with my build a bit. (i only have 4 tp at the moment), i tried
1 0 3, 2 0 2, 2 2 0, and 0 2 2. I found that the activation of the skill in the first tree is so rare that i dont even want to bother with it....It seemed dumb to have a skill that you need 7x stack of the evasion skill. I was in TOLS and pulled 2 rooms of mobs on me to get it to stack to 2, with me just standing there for 15 seconds. So right now I'm at 0 2 2, seems pretty solid, gonna try to get some dirks in the near future, but I seem to be alright. With full buffs i have less then a chip ks currently.

Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.

just a note on the activation of the skill in the first tree, it does activate quite a bit actually, no it wont go all the way to a 7x stack most of the time, but the extra boost of evasion is almost always active if you go nm soloing. THe only problem with it is that the activation notice doesnt always flash across the screen with each stack. Unless you constantly have the character stat screen open, you could be running with +100 eva and not even notice it.

[yoyobuae]

The activation for each stack is still shown in the chat window if you have it set to show messages like: "You have acquired ______ skill effect"

[bradjenkins]

I've changed a few things. This pic is obviously with wrath
My current build:
Sword:
+20 Devouring
+14 unrelenting

Armor:
+10 devouring

Rings:
2x Voracious luck rings

Earrings:
R5 ND patk +4% crit ratio earrings

Belt:
+3 Devouring 5 slot

Helmet:
T1 CS Helm

Rest:
Voracious

Belt Pets:
2x s0 kenta
s3 skel
s4 skel
SLK card

Stones:
6 Epic Str
6 Epic Agi

TP Distribution:
0 2 2 (havent made the sword yet)

Does this look OK? What should be fixed next?