Ask A Cleric!

[thunder_bird]

In order to help lower the number of very similar topics being posted in this forum, I've created this thread.

Please use this thread for all questions such as:

I just started a cleric, can you help me?
What skills should I get?
I messed up my cleric, what should I do?
What stone build should I use?

Thanks

[jetef]

You said one could ask for skilling advice so here goes:

I started Rappelz last week ago and i'm still trying to get used to playing...
are there any useful and easy skillbuilds for clerics that want to go on as a priest?

[thunder_bird]

If you're planning on going full support, then you'll want to focus on your heals and buffs and try to get to jlvl 40 as fast as possible to max out your buffs.

[monique52]

lol i half agree with malt, sure focus on ur jlvl and ur buffs ... not so much ur heals, u should be only useing lvl 1 heal and 1 rapid, other than that u shouldnt be using anything else. so get heal to lvl 1 for now and wait till ur priest to up it, since u will need it at 11 to get ur new skills ^_~

[soljah_j]

lol, your going to find everyone has a different way of playing there healer class. Some are better then others, and some just don't get it.

As you can see from the 2 posts above mine, gab has her style of healing shes comfortable with. Me, I don't use only lvl 1 heals, at early levels its possible to get away with, but as you start healing groups in lost mines, you'll notice your using a level one heal on a tank, and there still dieing fast as hell.

This is my hot bar.. Starting with F1 and ending with F12

Sit / Pickup / Creature ATK / Rapid 5 / Rapid 3 / Heal 5 / Heal 3 / Heal 1 / Resto 3 / resto 1 / resto 4 / Energy Beat

You'll notice I don't have a rapid 1 at hand, thats because my rapid heals are for emergency only. A rapid heal costs more mana, and heals less then a heal spell. The only difference is cast speed. So if I look away, and look back and someones red, I use rapid 5 or 3, depending on there role (tank or just DD).

I also use resto's, and many people criticize me for it. But there are a few healers who partied with me, and seen the advantages of saveing mana with it, and now use it as well. I use resto 4 on tanks with alot of mobs, this helps balance out the damage there taking. Its also handy to use on DD when they manage to steal argo. Why is this better then a heal? Well from experince I noticed when u cast a heal on, lets say a SIN, they tend to keep the argo, and get tank happy. A resto heals them slowly, and discourages them from attempting to tank. In other words its my silent way of saying "You will die if u keep tanking".


I do agree with getting jlvl 40 asap, and keeping the buffs maxed. Before my job change, i had everything atleast lvl 1, the debuffs are great for bosses, snares great for pesky adds. You'll also want to max your armor passives.. in lost mines pigs crit like crazy on healers.

g'luck

edit: I also use a Blue pixie to back heals, witch is why my style suits me. I highly recommend getting one.

[jetef]

Thanks everyone, i appreciate it, i'll try it out and see how it works.

[ulfang420]

Ok i started a cleric recently, been tryin a few diff classes/races what have ya as a change from playing a xbow strider, anyways im wondering what would be the best way to go about doing a solo/party cleric, basicly want to beable to handle my own solo if i dont feel like partying with as little problems possible while still being decent for partys AND all the while being easy to use for a 1 handed player

Right now im lvl 23/Jlvl 16, ive got lvl 3 weapon mastery,lvl 1 armor mastery, lvl 3 heal, lvl 2 res, and lvl 2 on all 4 buffs with 6525 jp on hand

Also what should i be looking for interms of equips (armor and weapons) and accessorys(earrings/rings), pet, and stones, at the moment my budgets under 700k thx inadvance for the help

[thunder_bird]

Your skills look pretty good. Right now I would focus on upping your jlvl so you can get better buffs.

For your weapon, I would use a 2h mace since it has very little difference in healing from a 2h staff and can be used for soloing. Since you plan on soloing, you should up your armor to reduce squishiness. Earrings should be matk, and use int rings for parties, with either str or vit for soloing. I would recommend a tortus for a pet since it can tank and gives you the pdef buff at lvl 40. Stones should be mostly int/vit, with maybe str/int or str/vit on the mace.

[aslianam]

Ok i started a cleric recently, been tryin a few diff classes/races what have ya as a change from playing a xbow strider, anyways im wondering what would be the best way to go about doing a solo/party cleric, basicly want to beable to handle my own solo if i dont feel like partying with as little problems possible while still being decent for partys AND all the while being easy to use for a 1 handed player

Right now im lvl 23/Jlvl 16, ive got lvl 3 weapon mastery,lvl 1 armor mastery, lvl 3 heal, lvl 2 res, and lvl 2 on all 4 buffs with 6525 jp on hand

Also what should i be looking for interms of equips (armor and weapons) and accessorys(earrings/rings), pet, and stones, at the moment my budgets under 700k thx inadvance for the help

My response is gearing towards soloing in DMR (the first dungeon you would go to at your lvl).

Pets: In terms of field mobs, I use a RP to nuke them. Mobs die before they even touch me. In the dungeon, it's quite different. You'll be more efficient with a higher lvl tank pet (such as an orc or a yeti... or a turtle) with you and constantly chip and spam lvl 1 heal your pet while it's killing the mob. RPs are bad for soloing in the dungeons because of their weak defense and healing them would drain your mp fast, thus creating down time while your mp regen. I use mine in parties though as she rarely steals aggro from the tank but deals serious dmg anyway.

Skills: Not too sure about this, but if you must solo without a higher lvl pet, you should really up your passive skills, heals and, most importantly, buffs or else you'll die all too soon. Actually, it's best that clerics do not solo without a higher lvl pet when dungeon mobs are orange and red =s. That's suicide. It's fun with a higher lvl pet tho.

Gear: You are a magician class, and as of now, we don't have much of a choice in what armor we wear =/ design wise... lol, just look for deva magician armors and try lvl it up to lvl 10 and at least +5 enchant if you want to solo. Use a 2handed mace when soloing with your pet (or pvp), but most of the time, you'll use a 2handed staff. My 2handed staff has 4 slots for stones so I stuck a str stone in it to for more whacking power =D

Stones: I am all int and vit stones build. Int stones (purple) increases your max mp and vit stones (... khaki/yellow?) increases your max hp.

Accessories: rings that increases max MP and necklaces that increase mp regeneration. Earings are different. Some of them give defense against magical attacks, which as good against dungeon bosses and in pvp, but you'll not need them in parties or soloing. Others incrase magical attacks or crtical power... your choice what you want to use. My suggestion here is, go to the Auction House and look under "Accessories--> Earrings" and see the differences for yourself.
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With all that said, I'm not sure why you would be a cleric if you like to solo. Maybe you'll want to be a bishop instead of a priest later? Not to say that Clerics aren't good soloers, but that class is generally a support class... a party class... a squishy class T_T.

[ulfang420]

Well i mearly ment to solo incase im just not in a party mood and wanna fight stuff on my own, and not nesseserally in a sense of lvlin but either farmin or just killing for the hell of it as for pets aside from a tortus with the well 3 you mentioned are there any perticular versions of those i need to kill to get a card? been trying to get a bp,orc or yeti but not sure if its perticulars that drop it ie:crude orc or hair lip yeti or what ever it is out near the ivory tower also ive not been able to locate where rp's are

now is there a perticular reason as to using a staff over a 2h mace other then MA, which im not understanding how that plays in to buffs/healing if thats what im mostly doing as a cleric

with necklace's does one only gain lack with the chaos or do the others hold it too? as far as equips go right now all my stuff's pretty much clean and im using gust of wind earrings, and 2 power rings that ok "for a start?"

Await responce

[thunder_bird]

The general rule for pet cards is that they drop from any mob that looks like the pet over level 30. There have been some exceptions (kentas on Trainees Island) and NPC pet cards drop at any level, but that's the general rule.

At rank 2, there is little difference between a staff and a mace. Iirc, the matk->heal formula is something like 5 matk=2 hp healed. If you have spare cash and are a real stickler for getting the maximum heal for your mp, then get a staff. If not, you can use a mace, especially at r2.

All necklaces collect lak, so if you can get a hold of an mp regen necky, that would be great for you. Your current setup looks good enough for soloing, but you may want to at least get int rings for parties and possibly some matk earrings.

[rayutasu]

Wasn't that e3?
I thought they dropped at any level now.

[aslianam]

Well i mearly ment to solo incase im just not in a party mood and wanna fight stuff on my own, and not nesseserally in a sense of lvlin but either farmin or just killing for the hell of it as for pets aside from a tortus with the well 3 you mentioned are there any perticular versions of those i need to kill to get a card? been trying to get a bp,orc or yeti but not sure if its perticulars that drop it ie:crude orc or hair lip yeti or what ever it is out near the ivory tower also ive not been able to locate where rp's are

now is there a perticular reason as to using a staff over a 2h mace other then MA, which im not understanding how that plays in to buffs/healing if thats what im mostly doing as a cleric

with necklace's does one only gain lack with the chaos or do the others hold it too? as far as equips go right now all my stuff's pretty much clean and im using gust of wind earrings, and 2 power rings that ok "for a start?"

Await responce

Regarding your question about mace v. staff, please look at this topic (viewtopic.php?f=123&t=831293), where people have tested both and can tell you what differences they see. TBH, I've only used a mace in PvP (mostly against other priests and bishops) because I can stun then hit them hard, set on follow, hit... stun, heal... etc. Not sure what other priests prefer. When I solo in the field, my staff does great with my RP. I think it's just your preference what you want when you solo. If your mp looks good with a mace, why not use one?

For pets, please look at the pet card drop legend/map that's on the forum. I'm not sure where it is, but you can use the search function for it by typing in "Pet card drop" or something like it. For example, to farm BPs, the map will show that if you take the Lasky's South Gate, turn left, and pass the bridge, that is where you can get a BP card drop. You'll see many people there farming... No need to worry about what lvl drops what when you look at the map.

It is not the necklace that collects lak. If you remember from your time on Noob island, it is the stone inside the necklace that you received from the lak trader NPC that collects lak. Necklaces just hold the stone and give you extra things, like HP/MP regen. When you want to lvl your necklace to hold more lak using the cash shop item, you will need to seperate the stone from the necklace and up the stone by itself. So, to answer your question, all necklaces will hold lak if they have a chaos stone.

In my personal opinion, if you use power rings, you should use a mace ^_^". That is, if you want to go melee most of the time and get the most out of those power rings, a mace would be the perfect weapon. I don't see why someone with power rings would use a staff, but that's just me and anyone can contest this. For parties, like Maltesefalcon said, it's best that you find some int rings to maximize your mp because at r2, I don't think you'll have time to help DD at all, unless your parties are that good (or someone has a high lvl pet to tank).

[thunder_bird]

Wasn't that e3?
I thought they dropped at any level now.

The only non-npc pets I've heard of dropping below level 30 are kentas (from Trainee's Island and Laksy South) and angels (from the lvl 29 plichus). Supposedly ex-commons now drop below level 30, but I've never heard a report of it happening, so I'll stick to the level 30 limit.

[ulfang420]

Okies i think i get an idea now but with not knowing what & when something like rings/etc will drop, takes aloooooooooong time from what it sounds like