logo
  • btn
  • btn
  • btn
  • btn
  • btn
  • btn
  • User ID PW
  • rappelzIntroduction
  • /
  • new
  • /
  • ItemShop
  • /
  • community
  • /
  • download
  • /
  • support
  • Rappelz Introduction
  • /
  • Player Guide
  • /
  • User Interface
  • current news
  • /
  • events
  • /
  • patch notes
  • ITEM SHOP
  • /
  • ITEM SHOP GUIDE
  • community center
  • /
  • forums
  • /
  • fan sites
  • client and patches
  • /
  • media
  • knowledge base
  • /
  • game rules
  • /
  • contact us
down
Download Rappelz Client File
community
  • Community Center
  • Forums
  • Fan Sites
Rappelz Library Rappelz Arsenal
img
img img
gPotato Profile
  • Board index ‹ Class Discussion ‹ Asura
  • Change font size
  • Print view
  • FAQ
  • Register
  • Login

Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Discuss the Strider, Dark Magician, Sorcerer and their advanced classes here.
Post a reply
12 posts • Page 1 of 1

Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby sebus » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:53 am

Hi, i'm new to Rappelz and i would like to make a Sorcerer thats good for PvP and i was wondering if i should go with the Int/vit combo or the Str/Vit combo
Image

Lydian Server
Raikyoku, Sorcerer Lvl 3x
sebus
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 29
Joined: Mon Aug 21, 2006 2:52 pm
Location: Come over to the dark side. We have cookies!!!
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby anommander » Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:23 pm

I think Str/Agi is also a good option because we are Asura and have a high evasion.

I Prefer Str not Int. Because you will do much more dmg with meele Attacks than with your Spells.

And in the moment i have Agi and not Vit.
I think it goes well and i Dodge very often.

But im only lvl 62....
anommander
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 7
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:37 am
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby pozaros » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:33 pm

At R4 it's str/vit due to Might of the Underworld (power exchanger) - takes like 20% str/vit from your pet and gives it (your +20%) to you.
Also known as ventur
pozaros
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 530
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:24 am
  • Website
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby hoyin007 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:08 am

Since Evasion are pretty useless against mobs/player higher level than you, STR/VIT or INT/VIT are the choice.

Might of the Underworld (power exchanger) are actually not very good skill as a damage dealer, it take away 20% of STR from your pet, even worse, it take away from both pets if you dual-summon.

Since most people use force chips, magic are doing less damage in dugeon part, so most Sorcerer goes STR/VIT build.

But in PvP, magic Sorcerer with dual summon fire-pixie rocks.
hoyin007
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 21
Joined: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:26 am
  • Website
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby pozaros » Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:18 am

Evo 2 orc has like 80 str by itself, add +27 at R4 with lair stones = 107 str, -20% ~=80 str - a whooping -2,6*25=65 patt less than w/o the buff, but having extra 25+ vit on char might be useful, as well as extra str due to faster weapon. And chars usually have higher stats than their pets.
Also known as ventur
pozaros
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 530
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:24 am
  • Website
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby ichat3 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:24 am

No Might of the Underworld serves one useful purpose. It buffs your vit. Im sorry but taking 25% damage from BOTH of your pets to give yourself 25% more strength which because you are using a dirk will not be a whole lot, will decrease your dps, not increase it. Once you have dual summoning lvl 7 and up your damage output is 3 fold with the majority of it coming from your pets. With Blood Aura on your kill speed is so high that damage will be at an absolute minimum. Why nerf your pets for 25% more str? For 5 mins you have double impact so why bother with Might of the Underworld?

Might of the Underworld is best used in conjunction with pass damage to boost your def. The xtra attack with a dirk is not significant. I would seldom recommend going with two or even one strength ring. I use two vitality rings at all times. Perhaps the only time I would go all out offense is in a dungeon party. Of course soloing outside of the dungeon going all out offense with 2 strength rings can also work since with creature intimidate your pets will take the agro instead of you. Just make sure your pets can take a beating because sorcerer pet heal is not very nice.

When double impact is on cool down your dps will drop. Its simple. 5 minutes of uber damage followed by 5 minutes of still very outstanding damage.

As for int/vit vs str/vit I told you already that in the early going, str/vit is the best choice. Later on in PvP int/vit will become much more relevant.
User avatar
ichat3
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 2228
Joined: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:47 am
  • Website
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby pozaros » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:56 am

What I've tried to prove was that you don't take that much power from pets with that - 20% str. Maybe if they are buffed by cleric and breeder that might be significant, but while soloing it should be hardly noticable. The most patt comes from pets weapon/passives/toggles.
Also known as ventur
pozaros
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 530
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:24 am
  • Website
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby ultimatemx » Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:12 am

I use a mix of all 3 to be honest, I use Vit the most, never have an equip without at least 1 vit stone on it. I have 2 Int stones in my equips because using a few toggles and Dirk Tornado as well as various spells to pull really saps your MP. But if you're better at MP conservation than I am, you're better off with vit + Str.

Might is only really useful in the occasional PvP match or in Dungeon running without a Sin, or if you're leveling a lower pet, its better for you to sacrifice their defense and strength so you can pull the aggro. And it is certainly something I would reccomend against using all the time as if you're using Pass Damage + support + Aura + Might, you eat MP Fast.
Image
CrimsonFox 12x Battle Summoner
Maverick (Maveypants) 11x +2x Raven
NobleSoul 11x +2x Chaos Knight
ValiantSoul 11x +2x Orc Warrior
User avatar
ultimatemx
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 281
Joined: Tue Jun 27, 2006 9:16 pm
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby ichat3 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:48 am

Well I am one person who ilke to get it right so I went home and tested Might of The underworld. With 1 pet out Might of the underworld actually increases your total damage output :shock: I couldn't believe it but its true. I was actually doning more combined damage with a single pet when Might of the underworld was on.

You are right. The amount of str taken away by might of the underworld is actually less on the pet than what you receive simply because at evo 1 and evo 2 the pet stats are lowre than yours. So even with two pet out the over damage will not be much different HOWEVER there is one downside to the equation. Might of the underworld will drop your pets def BUT it depends on what type o pets you are using and which aura you are using how detrimental this would be if at all.

For instance I love Blood Aura. Might of the underworld would therefore make my pets very weak defensively. In PvE however my kill speed is so high a mob will get 1 or two hits in maximum before I kill it. In dugeon I seldom get agro so that lower defense is of no consequence + healers are around in case of the unfortunate event that I do get my pets damaged. In PvP however Using blood and might would be suicide so Halisha and blood would be my choices. In fact because I go magic in PvP Might is of no use to me anyway since I use my pets to stall delay people from getting to me but at the same time I need my pets to have maximum damage and defense since they will be getting up close and personal.

So my take on Might of the Underworld now? Use it if you need to! As for me, I actually use it now when I solo.
User avatar
ichat3
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 2228
Joined: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:47 am
  • Website
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby pozaros » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:37 am

IIRC you can have both on, my sorc is still at 1st job, but on my main I think I did see battle summoners with both toggles on
Also known as ventur
pozaros
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 530
Joined: Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:24 am
  • Website
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby scarlingdarling » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:07 pm

i'd like to point out that if you use halisha + might your pets loose nothing.

my might is 27% and my Halisha is +3 = +32 stats..

when i use might + halisha, i loose no vit or str on my pet. BUT i do not gain much. since its taking away what halisha is giving me.. my pet gains maybe only +5 to +10 on vit and str. In dp's i take Might, but solo i will not use because my pet will be tanking.
Image
Image
TakinDuoVideo115BSand117SB
SoulSeekerDuoVideo115BSand117SB
LikiDuoVideo87SBand82Bish
User avatar
scarlingdarling
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 203
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:44 pm
Top

Re: Int/Vit or Str/Vit

Postby scarlingdarling » Wed Mar 19, 2008 7:10 pm

pozar wrote:IIRC you can have both on, my sorc is still at 1st job, but on my main I think I did see battle summoners with both toggles on


only one.. you may have saw a sorc in a party with another sorc.. or you may have saw a sorc with a breeder's int buff on the pet.
Image
Image
TakinDuoVideo115BSand117SB
SoulSeekerDuoVideo115BSand117SB
LikiDuoVideo87SBand82Bish
User avatar
scarlingdarling
Rappelz User
 
Posts: 203
Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:44 pm
Top


Post a reply
12 posts • Page 1 of 1

Return to Asura

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

  • Board index
  • The team • Delete all board cookies • All times are UTC - 8 hours
Play Free Online Games : Rappelz - Heroes of Gaia - Allods Online - Aika Online - Flyff - Luna Online - Tales Runner - Corum Online - Upshift Strikeracer - Flyff Brasil -

imgimgimgimgGermanFrenchjapanTurkish

© 2010 Gala-Net, Inc. All Rights Reserved.