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Duel Summon :/

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Duel Summon :/

Postby youannoyme » Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:23 pm

So duel summon...my favorit pet class tool. My question is how do you exactly use it. I have a yeti and a turtle. I already summom my yeti and then try to duel summom my turtle to buff the yeti with pdef. But when i duel summom the turtle the yeti goes away..... So how do I summom the turtle and keep the yeti.
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby rest » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:42 pm

You can only duel summon for 10 seconds (more if you have points trained in the duel summon skill). There should be a timer showing on the yeti that tells you how much longer it can be out. You need to recall the turtle before the timer runs out or the yeti gets recalled
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby pyrrhusx » Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:56 am

i believe u need tro get the skill then it lasts about 1 min 40 seconds :shock:
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby zaranz » Tue Dec 18, 2007 6:57 am

80 secs at lvl 10, with 60 secs cd
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby stijn1993 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:48 am

can u duel Summon with sorc?
and i have a question can someone help me to skill me Sorc
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby ichat3 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:00 am

For Sorcerer/Battle Summoner

1) Yes we can dual summon

2) Each lvl of dual summoning adds 7 seconds to the time dual summoning last. The max level is 10 so that is 70 additional seconds to the base 10 seconds that all classes have. The end result is that at lvl 10 you can have two pets out for 80 seconds which allows for what we consider continuous dual summoning since the cooldown on the summon skill is 60 seconds. This is good for total damage output, increased number of skills and levelling pets.

In terms of beginner sorcerers, dual summoning is no use to you. In fact you will not be able to learn the dual summon passive until job lvl 10 once you become a battle summoner. Also it will only become useful in boss fights outside the dungeon at about lvl 5 and technically continuous at lvl 7. In either case you will not be able to dual summon effectively until you are lvl 80+ if you choose not to overbreed and have not spent your jps wildly.

3) Actual Dual Summoning require nothing more than two formed pets and using the dual summon skill once it has cooldown. Note that after the second pet has been formed, the pet that was there originally will become the secondary pet. The significance of this is twofold:1) pass damage only affects the primary pet (which is the pet you just summoned) 2)the countdown timer (in the case of lvl 10 dual summoning is 80 seconds) begins on the secondary pet. This means after the countdown timer expires the second pet will dissapear.

Therefore be careful dual summoning low level pets since if you have pass damage on and they become the primary pet you might be surprised to find them dead though nothing hit them.

4) One final Note. When a pet becomes desummoned it will lose all its buffs. If therefore your pet has recieved some nice cleric/huna/cm buffs that you don't want it to lose but you want to dual summon remember you can desummon the other pet by using the recall creature skill. Then you simply resummon it again.
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby orenroffo » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:52 pm

Is there any Dual Summon Cards? I dont think so, as they are a passive skill.
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby paradoxical » Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:09 am

orenroffo wrote:Is there any Dual Summon Cards? I dont think so, as they are a passive skill.


No, but the Summon Creature cards reduce the cooldown timer on the skill by I think 4% each card. (Which takes off about 2.4 seconds per card).
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby tehdoctor » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:50 am

paradoxical wrote:
orenroffo wrote: (Which takes off about 2.4 seconds per card).


this doesnt look correct lol . are u sure about the numbers?
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby hakron » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:56 am

paradoxical wrote:
orenroffo wrote:Is there any Dual Summon Cards? I dont think so, as they are a passive skill.


No, but the Summon Creature cards reduce the cooldown timer on the skill by I think 4% each card. (Which takes off about 2.4 seconds per card).

Summon Creature card gives 1% cooldown or -0.6 secs. For a -2.4 secs you will need a +4 Summon Creature Card.
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby mountk2 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:22 pm

landcf wrote:
paradoxical wrote:
orenroffo wrote:Is there any Dual Summon Cards? I dont think so, as they are a passive skill.


No, but the Summon Creature cards reduce the cooldown timer on the skill by I think 4% each card. (Which takes off about 2.4 seconds per card).

Summon Creature card gives 1% cooldown or -0.6 secs. For a -2.4 secs you will need a +4 Summon Creature Card.


Not true. I have the card and it says -1.2 second for +1 card. +4 card would give -4.8sec.
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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby mountk2 » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:25 pm

suhnkan wrote:For Sorcerer/Battle Summoner

1) Yes we can dual summon

2) Each lvl of dual summoning adds 7 seconds to the time dual summoning last. The max level is 10 so that is 70 additional seconds to the base 10 seconds that all classes have. The end result is that at lvl 10 you can have two pets out for 80 seconds which allows for what we consider continuous dual summoning since the cooldown on the summon skill is 60 seconds. This is good for total damage output, increased number of skills and levelling pets.

In terms of beginner sorcerers, dual summoning is no use to you. In fact you will not be able to learn the dual summon passive until job lvl 10 once you become a battle summoner. Also it will only become useful in boss fights outside the dungeon at about lvl 5 and technically continuous at lvl 7. In either case you will not be able to dual summon effectively until you are lvl 80+ if you choose not to overbreed and have not spent your jps wildly.

3) Actual Dual Summoning require nothing more than two formed pets and using the dual summon skill once it has cooldown. Note that after the second pet has been formed, the pet that was there originally will become the secondary pet. The significance of this is twofold:1) pass damage only affects the primary pet (which is the pet you just summoned) 2)the countdown timer (in the case of lvl 10 dual summoning is 80 seconds) begins on the secondary pet. This means after the countdown timer expires the second pet will dissapear.

Therefore be careful dual summoning low level pets since if you have pass damage on and they become the primary pet you might be surprised to find them dead though nothing hit them.

4) One final Note. When a pet becomes desummoned it will lose all its buffs. If therefore your pet has recieved some nice cleric/huna/cm buffs that you don't want it to lose but you want to dual summon remember you can desummon the other pet by using the recall creature skill. Then you simply resummon it again.


very helpful and helped making clear about dual summon.

I used to think I can dual summon for 80 sec and then cool time 60 sec but I see how it becomes continuous dual summon. Except that we are vulnerable while we summon. (which might take like 10 sec)
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Re: Dual Summon :/

Postby hakron » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:53 am

mountk2 wrote:
landcf wrote:Summon Creature card gives 1% cooldown or -0.6 secs. For a -2.4 secs you will need a +4 Summon Creature Card.


Not true. I have the card and it says -1.2 second for +1 card. +4 card would give -4.8sec.


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Re: Duel Summon :/

Postby paradoxical » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:29 pm

Hrm, I must've been REALLY tired when I saw that card, 'cause I swear it said -4% =/
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Postby xdragon2k » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:39 pm

mountk2 wrote:Except that we are vulnerable while we summon. (which might take like 10 sec)


You're vulnerable for 10 seconds only if you only using level 1 Summon Creature. The higher the level the more mana it consumes but the faster the summoning is. I do believe the cast time of high level summon creature is under 5 or even lower.

Watch your mana though. Balance your mana regen with which level of summon creature to see which one is the shortest time while you can do continuous dual summon without depleting your mana. Or set two diff level of summon on your shortcut bar, one being used for continuous summoning, while the other for fastest summoning.
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