Lions claw

by **dougie** » Sun Dec 09, 2007 9:13 pm

wat does lions claw skill do for you ? :lol:

by **allelujahhaptism** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 7:18 am

Not much, only got lv 1, so far. Overbreeding right now so im reluctant to waste jp on anything i dont "need"

Crit % is nice, but i havent noticed a huge diff with only 11% crit +

by **ultimatemx** » Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:03 pm

I have a few levels in it, it's not that effective, but it does come in handy during field boss fights by yourself, I've had my orc hit all critical in a fight against one.

by **ichat3** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:51 am

I have Lion's claw lvl 6+2. It adds 1% to my pets critical ratio. Now I think that the developers had to decide how powerful to make Lion's claw so as not to overpower the Battle Summoners pets. You see once you get to Job level 40 of your second job you get Aura of Halisha which adds 5/5.5 luck to your pet in addition to 22 points to every pet base stat at lvl 1. You can also choose to up your pet attack speed by using Combat Support which depending on the weapon you equip your pet with can dramatically increase your critical potential/rate, or you can keep to power support in which case you will raise the power of a crtical strike. So in the case of a pet with 7% critical rate, Halisha makes that 8% and using Lion's Claw would make it 9% for a very limited time.

You see Lion's Claw is acts like a percentage of your critical rates as opposed to an addition to your critical rate. So you may see that Lion's Claw says +16% to critical raitio which if your pet had a 7% critical ratio would equate to a 21% critical ratio. Lion's claw in its present state acts more like 16% of the 7% which is roughly 1%. I guess at max Lion's Claw may add about 2% to pet critical ratio. However when you are now starting out Lion's Claw will be completely useless to you. I mean even now I still don't use Lion's Claw becuse in that time I can use a pet skill.

by **dougie** » Tue Dec 11, 2007 11:57 pm

yeh for me, i rarely use it, only against a boss maybe,, coz an extra 1% for a few crappy seconds =), id rather not waste time castin the spell n continue stabbin. itd definitely be usefull if it was an addition to the current crit rate as the lasting is just way too short...

by **spence** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:01 pm

Most of the time i forget to use it in a boss battle.

I do use it when someone wants a pet fight, most of the time that are non-petclasses who ask for it :lol:

by **sycleo** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:09 pm

lions claw is an okay skill IF u have a/an pet that has a crit ratio buff like FoR on the orc.. what it does is the skill at lvl 6 +1 it add's +17% crit ratio which on a 7% base is pretty much only 1% but if you use it with FoR it gives you 59% crit ratio base(that is adding in the 50% on FoR) so it would add 9%.. i hope this clears things up alittle more

by **spence** » Tue Dec 18, 2007 2:11 am

Ah that seems worth it, how long does it last on max lvl?

by **sycleo** » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:45 am

no the skill is not really worth it with out a crit ratio buff like the orcs FoR cuz u only get 1 extra crit % unless it is different for max lvl and i doubt it would go over 2% and with the orcs crit buff my skill atm is lvl 6 +1 it gives me a total of 59% crit ratio but the FoR only lasts for like 10s if that.. but i donno how long it lasts..

by **stonky** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:00 am

To above poster it lasts 20 secs so theres your question, as for me I have lvl 3, but sucking so far, i mean it doesn't raise my pet's crit rate at all! Could be the fact his crit rate is 4%

by **fayelyke** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:50 am

Ehm, have any of you actually looks at your pets info when casting Lion's Claw? Yeah, the buff icon says + crit %, but in your pet's screen there's no change to stats...

On top of this i've noticed no change in my pet's crit rate when i use it.

Are you sure it works? >_<

Other classes have skills which say they're doing things which they currently aren't...I think this skill is broken.

by **sycleo** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:54 pm

yes lions claw works fine.. maybe this will better help me explain it..

my lions claw is lvl 6 +1.. and what u do is.. u take the 17% and u times that by the 8 in ur base stats.. so its .17 x 8 = 1.36 there for u dont round up to get the 2%.. u get the 1% extra next to as u see the 8% +1% that comes out to 9% for like 20 seconds.. and no that is not enough to notice a difference in crit ratio akkarin its a waist of a skill anymore since epic 4.. but then again look at how powerful sorc were in e3 they really deserved the nerf they got and it wasnt that much of one.. it just takes time to find a way to play it efficently.. but if u want lions claw to be alittle more noticeable use an ancient weapon u might get a +2% out of lions claw but then again it would only be for like 20 seconds

p.s. its also kind of annoying to keep hearing about THIS skill being broken.. when imo it isnt.. its just nerfed ur to used to the old crit burn sorcs got in e3.. and dont get me wrong i know there are ALOT of bugged skills and stuff in this game..

oh.. and to stonky i see what you mean now.. yeah does not seem to work with evo 1 pets.. i just tested it on my evo 1 yeti and i need my aura of halisha activated to be able to gain that +1% crit ratio.. so in other words anything with a base of 6% and up u will get that +1% crit ratio.. if its anything under 6% as a base it will not get the +1%.. they do not round up from .5 it always rounds down it seems..

by **fayelyke** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:26 am

Yeah , the pet i was testing it on was an evo 1 pantera haha.

Which is why I saw no crit % increase I guess >_<

Still, that's messed up.

by **sycleo** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 5:19 am

yea i agree the skill is messed up they should round up atleast at .5 instead they just wait till its a complete number.. it wold atleast be nice considering they killed the hell out of that skill