DIRK+Shield Sorc x War

by **yurilopes** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:35 am

Hello people, I hop you can help me^^

I'm plannin to make a dirk +shield char and asked in-game what char can do it well done... The answers were DM>Warlock (cause they have very nice self buffs which adds p atack and pdeff, and have + 88 static damage buff and +8% aspd buff, making them very nice DDs with this combo) and Sorcerer > Battle Summonner (cause they have double impact which helps a lot, some damage skills to use with dirks, with a melee pet his DPS is great and he has pdeff passive).

Basing myself on their answers I'd say a Warlock could do more damage per second in similuar situations (=pet level, = enchated gear, =lvl and jlvl).

Is this true? Or can a Sorcerer out damage a Warlock while soloing and DPing?

Thanks for the help in advance

by **ultimatemx** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:21 pm

A sorcerer's main weapon, or rather their best offense is going to be their pet, so while the warlock can up their attack and damage by 88, you can increase your pet's damage by up to 100, and you also, in the higher levels get might of the underworld which raises your own strength and vitality.

Ultimately when it comes down to it I don't see why a sorcerer could not take out a warlock 1 on 1 if they were both using dirk and shield at higher levels, equal equipment and all that. For lower levels however might lean towards the warlock, I'm not sure what levels their buffs come at.

Basically from what I understand from my own experience as well as what other people say, is that Sorcerer/Battle summoner really start to become stronger in the higher levels.

I hope this is some help lol.

by **chanshuiho** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 8:59 pm

Actually, I don't think warlock would use dagger other than in DP. Well and yeah.. sorcerer is a pet class afterall so you guys can utilize your pets much better than a warlock. Warlock can outdamage you.. well, sure if you are not using any pets and he isn't either. But if both of you are using pet, you will definitely win. This is especially true when you get dual summoning.

by **ichat3** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:01 am

The battle summoner can buff its dual summoned pets with combat support and either aura of halisha or blood aura. It can then use might of the underworld. If available it can also buff itself with double impact for 5 minutes.

by **schmotto** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 9:10 pm

that sound smighty fine.

I have a low lvl sorceror(lvl 28), and wondering when it becomes viable and if its at all worth using other than dirk and shield.
So far, the only magic I can do is quite weak compared to the other dirk skills I can use(haven't really levelled up the fire arrow tho, cos it was not doin enuf).
I'll probably keep going this way now, but does it become better to think of different weapons for later, or would you recommend dirk and shield all the way.
more or less Im wondering at what stage shud I stop putting point into the Melee type skills and start on the magic type skills.
Its' kinda confusing to me that melee type skills use MP up.
or am I stating this completely wrong.

by **zerocold** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:14 am

ultimatemx wrote:A sorcerer's main weapon, or rather their best offense is going to be their pet, so while the warlock can up their attack and damage by 88, you can increase your pet's damage by up to 100, and you also, in the higher levels get might of the underworld which raises your own strength and vitality.

Ultimately when it comes down to it I don't see why a sorcerer could not take out a warlock 1 on 1 if they were both using dirk and shield at higher levels, equal equipment and all that. For lower levels however might lean towards the warlock, I'm not sure what levels their buffs come at.

Basically from what I understand from my own experience as well as what other people say, is that Sorcerer/Battle summoner really start to become stronger in the higher levels.

I hope this is some help lol.

Agree with u

I am not sure how other thing but here is from experince .. i use same orc .. as lv 79 ( all gear +4lv10 ) .. i got hard time tank * XX boss .. when i become lv 80 ( i use some +4 and some +1lv 10 years ) however tank * XX bos ( same boss i try to kill in 79 ) fine without problem .. event those most of my gear not event +4 year .. ..

Conclution the diference to me is skill ... the more Jps u can get the high level level u can get the easier and stronger sorc is ..

I am Dagger + shield .. STR/VIT build ..

by **stonky** » Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:20 am

So Sorc appearently is a late bloomer? Just like OBing. But no one shows love for vit + agi build

by **ichat3** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:02 am

stonky wrote:So Sorc appearently is a late bloomer? Just like OBing. But no one shows love for vit + agi build

Evasion is also affected by level difference. Mobs/players lower than you will miss you often, same level as you will miss you less and higher level than you will seldom miss. So going vit/agi sounds great in theory but what do you sacrifice for this build? Of course! Killing power. The slightly higher boost in eva could be better spent helping you to kill faster. The faster you kill, the less hits you get.
Let me put it another way, I have a skell (lvl 84) with roughly (cant remember exactly) 220 evasion (with halisha) and vs mobs his level and higher he still gets hit more than 50% of the time.

by **stonky** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 12:03 am

Yeah I saw the light of vit/str just a few days ago, my Sorc uses str/agi but r3 comes around I'll be using the most popular combo around, str/vit, and I love to have a ex-common even a yeti lvl 1

by **ultimatemx** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:58 am

Str/agi is the worst build in the game. Agi is nerfed so much.
Well actually agi/dex or wis would be a worse build...

by **pweet1** » Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:42 am

I am pure solo build, Use all vit stones, but also 1 wis stone kept in gear for the 140+caster mobs/siege/pvp and the rest are agi stones. mainly vit/agi works great for me. I dodge alot , Id actually say at my current lvl i dodge great. But reason it works for me is as i am solo only, i am just puller not the tank, say for example i am using my orc as main pet, and just summon my red pixie, you pretty much melt through mobs, its just a matter of how fast you can pull, i hardly have to dd, just spam smite whenever its not on cd in between pulls. Rings +20v/20 agi. That is my Build.

by **stonky** » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:35 pm

On Dirk/shield with both parties the BS wins but your gonna have to use your pets either way. However staff using WL is much harder. But a BP fixes both. Remember you can have more pets than they do. Hope this helped